15. It's not fraudulent, it's them seeing you as you are, even our CAB person was surprised that my wife got her PIP, they see so many cases lost through people just looking neat and tidy, how long do you think it takes a disabled person to look presentable, struggle putting make up on, struggle trying to do their hair, struggle to get dressed, as I said, I have family and friends who have had PIP removed and lowered, just because the looked presentable. How to tell if pip assessment went well 2021. Thank you Victoria-NRAS. Just as a reminder keep (or take a pic with your mobile and email the pics to yourself so you always have access to them!) For me some days I cant walk up the stairs normally and I couldnt carry things up and down as I needed 2 hands to hold on too the bannister. However, the previously mentioned issues with PIP assessments are something that has been an issue for the longest time, and it has been seen in a lot of cases that the health professional who does the assessment is not doing a fair job of it, which naturally affects the level of help someone may be entitled to.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[580,400],'psychreel_com-banner-1','ezslot_5',108,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-psychreel_com-banner-1-0'); An improperly done health assessment does not adequately express what problems you face in your daily life due to your disability, including food related issues or mobility. Hi, Thank you for letting me part of this forum. I have gone through each point and tried to remember what I put and made a note of it all. You can use a benefits calculator to check entitlement to UNiversal Credit. Hi Gemma, if you can,explain at the begining of the call that yoy are extremely anxious about the call. The date for my PIP Assessment dropped on the mat, Can you Bellevue my PIP assessor asked me how I got RA. as being in breach of those terms. Complete the form in pencil first, it might seem time consuming but it can cut down processing time if your information is neat and clear. Yes Ive heard they try catching you out which is why Im rather nervous! If you have been through their assessment not just PIP bur ESA, their questionnaire is complicated and out to trick you. not moderated or reviewed by doctors and so you should not rely on opinions or advice given by other users in Award rates for all claims (excluding withdrawn cases) between April 2013 and January 2022 show that: 42% receive an award for normal rules new claims. I thought about it and realised for the first time ever that I dont engage with anyone as I dont want to talk about my condition/the fact that I resent the transplant. If your needs have changed, your PIP might be increased, reduced or stopped. He was very thorough and kind. The HCP did not mention scleroderma in her report, I guess she knew nothing of the condition. I had my PIP assessment year had to go to an office which my husband drove me to. To get a comprehensive full assessment and complete physical examination, it would take 1-2 hours. I thought about going into detail on what is PIP, who can apply for PIP, and everything you need to know about it, but instead, I'll leave it to the link below and just get on with my first PIP phone assessment experience and what . 1. Explain how you tackle the task/activity that shes asking about. In terms of showering, I told her I need help to steady myself in the shower, my husband does that and cant stand for more than a few mins. And how long does it take usually for a decision to be made? I was medically retired at 51 3years ago,best thing Ive done xx. The main reason for recording the assessment officially is that they know you are, and they're more careful in the first place so with any luck you can avoid having to go to appeal. Good Luck! There are different rules if youre terminally ill. You cannot get PIP and Armed Forces Independence Payment at the same time.. The Benefits and Work member guides for PIP are excellent as they take you through the process step by step. Feed yourself. I was clean and tidy it went against me. We will have to agree to disagree, Thats what Im saying, be honest, be you . Really explain why you struggle with the various descriptors and what help you need or get from others. Anything digital is not allowed. Sorry waffling. when I do this again Im going to record my interview and let them know this is my intention. My good friend went for an assessment because of severe depression. I received the copy of my report and although some of it I feel is not accurate, he has recommended 14 . Check what happens after you've sent the form You'll usually have to go to an assessment to check how your condition affects you. Create an account. I'm not used to discussing ailments with pople I dont know - and I seriously doubt she kmew a lot about my condition. Here's my experience as a disabled woman, you can read about my condition in my chronic journey blog post. What is the timescale please between receiving the Well it's arrived my letter for a face to face. 5. If she asks how far, how long can you walk, think about how you feel doing that, then answer. Some claims take less time; some take more. I know a lot of people have been denied PIP, when they might have deserved it..but it is irresponsible to advise somebody to pretend their condition is worse than it is,..especially in the present climate. The latest figures from the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) show that at the end of October 2022, claims for Personal Independence Payment (PIP) were taking 16 weeks to process from point of registration to the decision being made. Considering the fact the total points on the Care Descriptor points is over 70! He must be much cleverer than me and the professor because after 15 years with the condition, there still isn't that much known about it - perhaps he'd like to do a disertation on it? https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit-guides/Claiming-Personal-Independence-Payment/Getting-a-PIP-decision#:~:text=On%20average%2C%20it%20takes%20the,less%20time%2C%20some%20take%20more. Think about her question, how it relates to you and not what you think the answer needs to be to score higher points. I received the copy of my report and although some of it I feel is not accurate, he has recommended 14 points for daily living and 10 for mobility which I would be very happy with. PIP decision takes about 6 weeks after a paper based assessment to get you the PIP amount that you have claimed or that you need based on what condition you are suffering from. Most states that require PIP are no-fault states, which require each person to cover their own medical expenses if they're injured in an accident, regardless of who is responsible. Scoring 4 is a joke. Some problems have improved, some have got worse. What happens after PIP questionnaire? She also said I always start with question 11 as it can take the longest. It irritates the life out of me to think that the pen pusher who reconsidered my claim said he's used all the information available to him to make the decision? When I did support work, one of my clients got taken all the way to a tribunal by the DWP who then didn't have the courtesy to turn up. If you're awarded PIP for a fixed time of more than 2 years, the DWP will usually review your award before it ends. MBTI, Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, and Myers-Briggs are trademarks or registered trademarks of the Myers and Briggs Foundation, Inc., in the United States and other countries.Personality Articles Disclaimer: The articles listed under the Personality Category contain information from external sources whose accuracy and reliability is not guaranteed. Good luck ,try get the words long term across and if applies unlikely to change in the long term and all the long term meds and treatments even ones that did not work in the past ,it helps for a longer award and to try not have to go through the whole process again next year , evidence letters etc does not come into it now ,unless it is new evidence and how it affects you not confirmations of condition they are not interested about that , they will go over your forms on their computer ,you do not know wot they will ask is luck ,good luck hope it goes ok. Things I remember specifically: in terms of preparing food, I said I couldnt hold a full kettle as I have pain in my wrist joints. Ive tried to access my How disability affects you form I completed online but it seems I cant. A PIP signifies that the boss is unhappy and the OP should be concerned about that. 3. However, there's a rigorous assessment process for people . I told her Im exhausted after showering and have to sit with a towel round me to let myself air dry rather than rub myself dry as its too tiring. Be careful of things like picking up dropped pencil etc. They evaluate your ability to carry out specific daily living and mobility activities. I was asked to take my thumb splint off, to which I answered yes I can do ,so long as you take responsibility for any dislocation that might occur, she said don't bother then ! Unfortunately, the DWP are notoriously difficult to convince whatever your doctor says. Great news in one way as I dont have to worry about driving anywhere as I already know next week is going to be hard as a conference to go too as well for work. Remember getting upset will not help your condition; yes there are lots of horror stories, but there are good stories as well (they just do not make the news)! Glad your husband is receiving support but like you say its such a shame its so challenging to receive, as the health conditions we are facing are enough stress without anything extra on top of that! attatel in reply to Diary 3 years ago Do PIP decision makers go with the assessors report? A PIP decision timescale depends on the following aspects of the PIP claim process: Along with the PIP benefit, your caregiver may also be eligible for carers allowance, if your condition is severe and you need constant help and support. But, if you wish, you can also have your PIP results emailed to you. Are the My DLA is stopping and I have to apply for PIP. Is anyone else any stories to share. My doctor is a professor and she has written 2 statements already.and now on with her third. As your wife has received a text message then she will need to make sure that she answers the phone between the time stated in the text. Have more bad days than good how fatigue disables you eg driving is dangerous due to fatigue and brain fog so you dont leave the house. If you want to request a copy of your assessment form you can do so by ring the DWP and asking for your PA4 report. The questionnaire wasnt complicated and out to trick you. Go through the assessment and do your own report based on the discrepancies in the assessment. How long after PIP phone call do you get paid? I hope it goes well! I do not have issues with mobility but suffer with chronic fatigue and pain due to my illness and am signed off work for the foreseeable. I unfortunately do not have much faith in the system and have already convinced myself I am doomed to fail. He can walk miles but can't stay awake when travelling. Your interview was scheduled for half an hour, but it was closer to 45 minutes or an hour before your conversation wrapped up. Once your claim process has been started or when you are on the call, you may need the following details on the call:if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'psychreel_com-leader-2','ezslot_9',113,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-psychreel_com-leader-2-0'); You can also get someone to help you with the starting of the PIP claim process, and for this you can also ask the DWP to add them to your call when you: Of course, this is not possible if you use text, which is why it would be ideal to use any of the other methods of communication.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'psychreel_com-leader-3','ezslot_10',114,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-psychreel_com-leader-3-0'); You can also get someone else to do it on your behalf, should you need it, but you will still need to be with them when they call, because you may be needed for verification purposes. I have no intention of cleaning for them as not got enough energy to do it for me let alone someone who is a guest in my home! Never delay seeking advice or dialling emergency services because of something that you have read on HealthUnlocked. Check the rules about recording in case they've changed (I don't think they have). Don't tell them you drive that will go against you unless you have an adapted car. I just told them how it was so whether they choose to tick those boxes in my favour or not only time will tell, If you are having an assessment soon, don't worry just tell them about your bad days, that's all you can do. If you're awarded PIP for a fixed time of more than 2 years, the DWP . It is impossible to get a full understanding and evaluations of any person's life, disabled or not within 20 minutes chat. If they called in unannounced on a bad day they would be lucky if I could summon the energy or mobility to open the door and I doubt my washing up would be done never mind hoovering and I would still be in my pjs wrapped in a blanket on the sofa. Tell them about the bad days. Well done, hope you you get a pospositive outcome. Another useful tip which is what I did for my late husband is ask for a copy of the assessors report. But the points on my report focused only on my physical condition, which allowed me a previous award of standard daily living for the past few years. PIP seems to have taken on a similar role of the support group of ESA. Very best of luck with it all! Currently personally, I dont like being with people I dont know. Don't look too well turned out and don't be too chatty - both can be seen as 'evidence' that you're fine! Once SSP ends the ESA payments will start. My husband and I cleaned the house it went against us. I have not received a message to say they have received my report so my sister called today to check they have and the confirmed the received it 17/01/22 she said no desision has been made yet but to keep checking my bank ??? Well it just goes to show that it all depends on your assessor. This may give you a bit more time to explain yourself and try to not rush the conversation. A bit stupid really, when I need 3 aids to get in and out of our car which is on the Motability Scheme, gawd knows what will happen without a car, 2-3 outpatient appointments a week is not easy to get to without a car! Judging people on paper is totally wrong, ignoring doctors reports is criminal. If you have any questions or comments about the PIP decision timescale, please feel free to reach out to us at any time. New style ESA maybe possible, if you've paid the correct amount of NI contributions in the previous 2 tax years. If you're terminally ill the award will be for 3 years. It takes the DWP about 12 weeks to process all the evidence they have in your case, and to review everything and decide whether your claim is valid.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'psychreel_com-portrait-2','ezslot_24',171,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-psychreel_com-portrait-2-0'); PIP back pay usually takes about 4 to 6 weeks, and most people tend to receive money about every 4 weeks or so. ATOS allows it, but only if you provide a second copy after the Assessment. Will PIP tell me decision over the phone? There have also been reports of how the issues with PIP assessment can be managed with ease if the person knows what they are doing and takes adequate help from others.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[580,400],'psychreel_com-medrectangle-4','ezslot_2',106,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-psychreel_com-medrectangle-4-0'); To get help with the process of PIP claims and ensure that you know how to best approach the situation can be done by talking to local organizations or even organizations or even through online organizations like Citizens Advice. The COC was to let them know of several recent diagnosis, mainly of a cognitive nature. Hi Gemma, I take it you have already submitted a 'How your disability affects you form' with all the descriptors for daily living activities and you detailed how you struggled with each one. Can I check my PIP assessment online? Ring the PIP helpline number and ask for a copy of your assessor's report to be sent to you. They did comment at my assessment on my clothing and how I looked but I still got PIP. 8. Maintaining a positive attitude throughout the process will help the entire organisation to recognise the value of an employee performance improvement plan. I know it sounds very dramatic but if you stop and think how much it does effect you you will be surprised. PsychReel do not provide medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. My own Gp told me when I asked for a support letter that he had a patient who was paralysed from the waist down and was turned down because he could lift himself from chair to sofa using his arms . I have a video PIP assessment in a few weeks time and was wondering if anyone had any tips or advice for this? We will then send you a letter. Moreover, the content may be subjective, and not necessarily backed by research.Whilst, these personality articles have been written by subject expert psychologists the sole purpose of the article is to inform, educate and entertain, and cannot be substituted for professional opinion or advice. I really wouldn't go with the flow, Deeb. If she takes a lot of the advice that is being offered here ..the first thing the assessor will ask her is how does she get to work and how does she get dressed .if on the day of the assessment she says she can do neither? and Privacy Policy and steps will be taken to remove posts identified How long does it take for PIP decision after assessment 2022? Based on many other threads here the waiting time for decision's is anything from 2-12 weeks. Just a gentle reminder that anything filled in on a PIP form or said during the PIP assessment MUST be accurate, truthful information, otherwise you risk prosecution. Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation. you can refer back to the notes on your claim form if you wish. My PIP wasnt removed because of how I was dressed or turned out. After loosing this was awarded for 3 years high care and 10 out 12 points for mobility so still kept my blue badge but lost my car which I went on to purchase from Motobility. If you appeal a PIP decision online, you'll be asked if you want to join the 'track your appeal' service. My personal opinion is that PIP should be based on more on circumstance and how serious your condition has affected you in the past as well as present. I scored 10 for daily living and 4 for mobility. If you have an indefinite award the DWP will usually review it every 10 years. I've just had my work capability assessment over the phone and I think it went well. There have been reports of clients who have been awarded the DLA benefits but they seem to have lost these benefits when they moved to PIP. I had my assessment some weeks ago and then 8 weeks ago I received a text from the DWP saying that they were looking at my assessment and would be in touch in 4 weeks - I have heard nothing do you think I should contact them to find out what is happening. I hope it goes well! I do not qualify for ESA so I cant comment on that as I havent seen the questions. I had a good assessor, took a taxi to the centre. On the 11th January 2022 I received a text saying they had received my report and it would be 8 weeks for a decision. Any individual who files a PIP claim could get between 23.60 and 151.40 a week if they are aged 16 or above and have not reached State Pension age. I was stunned to receive a letter home for 2 weeks and is still very weak. Namaste, Hi all - after my last great review getting my PIP awarded the Dr sent a letter stating I needed the higher rate mobility so I sent it - I then had to start the thing over again. Also, people are reluctant to say how much trouble they have - it's a very British thing to play down illness - and so they lose points. I may be proved really wrong but I honestly didnt get the impression she was trying to trip me up/catch me out. My own doctor and consultants class me as a "Complex Case", - a slight alteration on my medications can have severe results. Was on DLA allowance before with low care and high mobility. She said we only received my report yesterday. When I get the dreaded brown envelope I'll probably be in the same boat as everyone else who had had a poor decision. If so explain why. Est-ce que le prix des pellets va baisser en 2023 ? He even helped me give good responses. How long after PIP phone call do you get paid? Check what the mobility scores mean If you get between 8 and 11 points in total, you'll get the mobility component of PIP at the standard rate. Most of the HP conclusions are wholly fabricated. Raynauds, Osteo shoulder and Arrithmia. We use cookies on our website. She put my problems down to Fibromyalgia and raynauds which of course I have too and each a disabling condition. 4. Im now getting ready for this work capability appointment next Tuesday. Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. So I had a telephone assessment for a change of circumstances on the 13th of February. Use of this website is conditional upon your acceptance of our User Agreement. Will PIP tell me decision over the phone? It will come in handy if you have to do a mandatory reconsideration, (looking at the claim again). Always consult your doctor about your medical conditions. Gemma, Ive copied my post from last week and pasted it below-I had the assessment last week. Nicola230, having recently been assessed and declined, I can tell you it's a process, a procedure to follow. I found this quite challenging as she wanted to know exactly how long things take and with me its so variable. I'm going to fight this just for my own peace of mind. Hope I haven't made you too stressed and anxious about it! I'm not sure if you've still got time - you have to get permission from them in advance to do this - but if at all possible record the assessment. My Occupational Therapist tried to get me a Bio-Bidet which is basically a new toilet seat, but with the additional parts of a bidet, but the funding was turned down, that cost 1,000 - the reason given was not suitable for individual, hence now they have applied for a Clos-o-mat, costing 7,000 which has been accepted. Nothing on this board constitutes legal advice - always consult a professional about specific problems. You'll get a letter that tells you what will happen with your PIP. Don't behave as if it was any other appointment or social event and try to look smart or anything. I can only repeat, take your time, dont try to outthink the question, just ask yourself how would I feel doing that and how would I tackle it and how many times could I do it/how much time would it take me to recover after doing it. It also makes them aware that you are likely to challenge any inaccuracies. A PIP medical assessment report by an independent healthcare professional. Its very specific and slightly embarrassing what they want to know. About 50 mins later I received a call with a nurse which lasted just short of 2 hours.The nurse was actually very patient, human, but very thorough. Patient is a UK registered trade mark. Though in most cases PIP decision timescale tends to be around 12 or so weeks, it can also be rushed when you are terminally ill.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'psychreel_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_1',103,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-psychreel_com-medrectangle-3-0'); When the PIP claim is not that complicated the process is also relatively quicker, but there have been many reports in the past about the many issues that seem to plague the process of the PIP decision making, particularly the part with the assessment, likely because this part is dependent on the independent contractors. Just as important it should take you past retiring age with enhanced mobility to continue onward ( provided you continue to meet the criteria ), Be all you can be, make every day count. The latest figures from the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) show that at the end of October 2022, claims for Personal Independence Payment (PIP) were taking 16 weeks to process from point of registration to the decision being made. Good luck everyone with your outcomes/ assessments! There are currently people with mental illness that have taken their own lives due to the stress of PIP applications, decisions and appeals. glad its over. But J1707 you were telling Dee to say fatigue and brain fog makes driving dangerous so she doesnt go out and thats not true. Reviews: 94% of readers found this page helpful, Address: Apt. Wish you all the best for it, it's a great pity when someone in such a health predicament as yours has to jump through these bl**dy hoops to get the help you so obviously need. That's fine by me. I would advise being very prepared - basically they are not on your side! Its done in sections so my advice to anyone else is to go with the flow of the questions. Hi Deeb I had mines at home on Tuesday,hopefully went alright but can never tell,Ive been getting Standard care for both for the last 4 years so hopefully carries on,absolute disgrace that we have to go through this as they just need to check whats wrong with us and that should be enough,the last week Ive had th I s diarrhoea bug and think it was worrying about this assessment,I stayed in my pyjamas had my wife with me so we will see what the outcome is good luck xxx. I was having a bad day so was not meant to sound flippant but it was how I was feeling yesterday as I know it could make a huge difference re work for me too. If you get at least 12 points in total, you'll get the mobility component at the enhanced rate. Make sure you tell the assessor everything you want them to know about your condition and don't tell them about any tricks or workarounds you've taught yourself or put in place (without . congrats getting the award you deserve. They have not given me a date yet so still on DLA. policy. Tell them your partner has to help.you with cooking , do you do internet shopping, how do you dress even down to putting in bras, how you toilet. If they take away my car I'll have to cope somehow but I will appeal for what good it will do. Upgrade to Patient Pro Medical Professional? Those were the 4areas as she described them to me. 14. There is only 2 sections on the mobility component side of PIP, and both together can total 24 max, getting that, is very difficult I am told. Also, think about if you could walk again within 5 mins/20 mins - when would you feel able to walk again. It isn't sent automatically. I record all my assessments although mine have been in their own building not at home. Ive been told a manager will be observing the phone call which has only added to my nerves but very grateful its telephone and not video/ face to face! How do I know if my PIP assessment went well? Could you repeat the activity? Good luck x. I know I hear you worried but what will be will be - at the end of the day they are in my home so rudeness not tolerated. All the very best. Its just frustrating trying to prove yourself. Get a list of what you want to tell them which you write using voice text, as you get brain fog. Youre talking to me like I dont know what Im talking about/am not disabled but I assure you Ive been there myself and helped many other people go there as well. My advice is do not give up - I waited 16 months to go to Court and I got my mobility assessment passed by the Judge -. Assessments can be in person, over the phone or by video call. You must be aged 16 or over and usually have not reached State Pension age to claim.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'psychreel_com-narrow-sky-1','ezslot_14',120,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-psychreel_com-narrow-sky-1-0'); You must also have a health condition or disability where you: You usually need to have lived in England, Scotland or Wales for at least 2 of the last 3 years, and be in one of these countries when you apply.

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