Stieb has other assets. Stieb is relaxed and voluble. Yankees ace pitcher CC Sabathia tied his career wins record with his final win in 2011. Alan Trammell, Lou Whitakerand Dale Murphy will all be newlyeligible. Stieb started it with Dunedin in the Class A Florida State League. It was a shocking turnabout, driven by bone chips in his elbow. Friendly, polite and professional attitude. But by then, his pitches were darting and diving in the 'pen and the itch was back. Helpful Nice guys", "I enjoyed having them do my house. You even used the high-quality paint I wanted :o) You are well-worth the money in every way", "On time, very professional, everyone comments on how perfect and detailed the job is and how quickly it was completed. Dave Stieb spent parts of 16 seasons in the majors from 1979 through 1998 with 15 of those seasons coming with the Toronto Blue Jays. Dave Stief David P. Stief was American football wide receiver in the National Football League for the St. Louis Cardinals and the Washington Redskins. Injuries ended the first 15 years of his career in 1993. Sport as a metaphor for life has been a common theme in Bois documentaries, and here it never is contrived. Magnum_44 3 yr. ago. He finished the '79 American League season with eight wins and eight defeats for a team with 109 losses. That wasn't in his personality in the past. Stieb hit only .192 in 35 games for Dunedin that rookie summer, but he was 2-0 with a 2.08 ERA in 26 innings. Copyright 2000-2023 Sports Reference LLC. The Jays picked him in the 5th round of the 1978 draft (the second year we were part of the draft) out of Southern Illinois University. Fast workers. Lisa is great! (Photo by Focus on Sport/Getty Images). We are very please and will definitely call Mastercraft if we have needs in the future", "Very easy to work with. Dave had that feel.". The brushback pitch was an integral part of his repertoire to back batters off the plate,[16] and was especially tough on right-handed hitters in this respect. Despite all of that, Stieb received seven votes (or 1.4 percent) on his first and only time on the BBWAA ballot in 2006. But they had at least done some pitching along the way. Next thing I know, I'm at the (minor league) complex with all the young kids and I'm going, 'What have I done?' The quality was consistent all the way through, with Part 3 easily the best. So instead, we talk about his successful, short-lived comeback with the Jays at age 40, and his new career as a building contractor, and his continuing passion for playing heavy-metal guitar. background-color:#ba3434; Stieb had a high-strung personality and was known as a fierce competitor on the mound; he was regularly seen having animated conversations with himself during pitches when in difficult situations. "I really couldn't believe it myself," Stieb says. Whos Dave Stieb? you might be asking. In the next one he'll be a . They had come to the Eastern Illinois University campus specifically to scout this Southern Illinois outfielder. They couldnt do a better job and a 100% warranty, Mastercraft honors their contract", "They are very good and will go the extra mile for you and that counts a lot", "Excellent service. There was a rain delay in the fourth inning. Keep up the excellent work! Well Done - 5 STARS!! You promised a quality job and that is what we got. "He has a tremendously competitive attitude. On September 2, 1990, he pitched the first (and, as of 2022[update], only) no-hitter in Blue Jays history, defeating the Cleveland Indians 30. "I'd just settled into an apartment in Syracuse after I moved to Triple A when they called me up. What a season it was! 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", Boxscore from Stieb's no-hitter at Retrosheet, American League Pitcher of the Year Award, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dave_Stieb&oldid=1141243082, Baseball players from San Jose, California, American expatriate baseball players in Canada, Southern Illinois Salukis baseball players, Articles with dead external links from September 2022, Short description is different from Wikidata, Articles containing potentially dated statements from 2022, All articles containing potentially dated statements, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, September 25,1998,for theToronto Blue Jays, Career statistics and player information from, This page was last edited on 24 February 2023, at 02:27. On one hand, Stieb said he wasnt that surprised with the outcome. ", "They all make the customer feel that your job is important to them", "Just keep doing what you are doing. Do you have a sports website? ", Stieb acknowledges that the brush with Martinez was instructive. "Is that all you got?". Previous. He posted a 1-3 record and 4.83 ERA in 19 games, including three starts. News. And last year, says Blue Jay Catcher Buck Martinez, Stieb realized, perhaps for the first time, "that he could win when he did not have good stuff. The quality was consistent all the way through, with Part 3 easily the best. When he was playing in the 1980s, he became interested in real estate through his agent and ever since then has used his savvy to buy and sell residential properties. Mussina, though, got into the Hall of Fame via the BBWAA voters on his sixth ballot. I'm all self-taught from friends and books. A few fans might be saying the same thing, just as they did in Vancouver. Dave Stieb was drafted by the Toronto Blue Jays in the 5th round of the 1978 MLB June Amateur Draft from Southern Illinois University Carbondale (Carbondale, IL). ", "Your company is friendly, knowledgeable and delivers promises. Dave apologized to me for that incident and that sort of thing has never happened again. Stieb has a higher WAR than five modern Hall of Fame starters, or starters who played most of their career after World War II. I totally respect him and his skills and what he did. Only Jack Morris won more games in the 1980s. He insists he does not compare himself to the others. Letterboxd Limited. Hall of Fame voting can be brutal in this regard, with numerous fine one-and-done candidates from Stieb to Bobby Grich to Ted Simmons and many others. He said, 'I know what you're here for and I think it's a great idea.' He was an animal, a bulldog-like [workhorse], and wanted to win like no one else. . It is just too bad they dont pave driveways, repair roofs, and do landscaping! Stieb is the subject of the 2022 four-part miniseries Captain Ahab: The Story of Dave Stieb, by Secret Base's Jon Bois and Alex Rubenstein; in addition to discussing his career, it advocates for his induction into the National Baseball Hall of Fame based on his accomplishments.[21]. After 20 minutes, professional courtesy dictates that I end the session, or so I presume. He has good stuff. It's all in what they call the rhythm. ", "Always happy with your work! He takes the same hard stance with other candidates, even friends. His story could not have been told with more care. The Blue Jays voluntarily renegotiated the last three years of his contract to pay him a higher amount in recognition of his years of service. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google privacy policy and terms of serviceapply. Dave Stieb, Kevin Boland 3.21 24 ratings4 reviews This autobiography of one of baseball's most outstanding and controversial personalities features uncensored views on salaries, agents, pitching, life on the road, and the pressures of winning and losing. The Blue Jays, meanwhile, had pecked away at three Yankee pitchers and had gone ahead 6-5 in the ninth. They looked at each other quizzically. As a service-driven real estate professional, I recognize people who have the same business ethics as I do and totally appreciate them. "I said, 'I've come full circle. Seattle Manager Rene Lachemann, among many others, considers Stieb the best righthanded pitcher in the league. The definition may have changed, but baseball blends more easily into his conversation these days. ", Jones, however, appealed to Stieb's sense of team spirit. The quality was consistent all the way through, with Part 3 easily the best. By Wins Above Average, the chasm between Stieb and Morris in the 80s is even wider: 28.1, best in the decade for Stieb; 9.0, 31st-best for Morris. He was 5-0 there when the Blue Jays moved him in May to their Triple A Syracuse farm. (Age 41-065d) "Maybe," says Oldham, "the outfield saved his arm. I'm done. David was a major league pitcher when most of his buddies from school were working in Chevron stations. Phoenix, AZ 85004 You are honest and run a professional business", "Service is outstanding. Showing Editorial results for dave stieb. Dave Stieb spent parts of 16 seasons in the majors from 1979 through 1998 with 15 of those seasons coming with the Toronto Blue Jays. The job stayed within budget with no cost overruns", "They met their 4-day job estimate. Southern Illinois University Carbondale (Carbondale, IL). [2] Stieb was known for flirting with no-hitters, having reached the ninth inning with no hits four times in five years before accomplishing the feat in 1990, throwing the first, and to date only, no-hitter in Blue Jays history. It's like, please, amuse me and string me out for two, three years.". You need a ticket. His pitching surprised and convinced the Blue Jays to draft him. And when he struck out Steve Kemp to end the game, he fairly leaped for joy. Search Details, Dave Stieb's Phone #, Address & More Just four years later, he was the best pitcher in the American League. On August 29, 2010, Stieb threw the ceremonial first pitch at the Rogers Centre, celebrating the 20th anniversary of his no-hitter game, with the anniversary coming four days after the celebration. The 65-year-old baseball player was born in California, United States. ", "You guys are great. By continuing to use our site, you consent to the placement of cookies on your browser and agree to the terms of our Privacy Policy. The former MLB pitcher lives here. Become a Stathead & surf this site ad-free. Many thanks to him. Do Pattie and Dave want Andrew to be a fireman or follow in his father's footsteps as a starter? On May 3, 1978 Bobby Mattick, then the director of player development for the Toronto Blue Jays, and Blue Jay scout Al LaMacchia were stationed near the stands on the first-base side in a little ball park in Charleston, Ill., when the visiting centerfielder jogged in to pitch the sixth inning. This is the painting contractor you should contact for your project", "Employees who worked on the job had a good attitude about doing a good job", "Good job as always. Great work, timely arrivals", "There was some anxiety that the project did not start on time due to weather, however, it worked out okay even though we were away. He has one of the great hidden pitching primes in MLB history. Baseball doesn't define me now. In the next one he'll be a building contractor, constructing houses in Nevada. Who will be the first unanimous baseball Hall of Famer. He is tied with Mike Mussina who, like Stieb, spent his entire career (with the exception of four starts for Stieb) in the American League East. in Santa Ana, CA Leslee Bender's House. He led the league in shutouts (five), complete games (19) and innings pitched (288). 'I just thought, 'Man, it feels good. To this day, we debate what it all meant, and where his legacy bel. These days, Stieb and two partners are building their second subdivision in Reno, where he makes his home. "Is that it?" Theres good news for Stieb, though. A rapt audience of players and coaches gathered. Back with the Blue Jays, he was not great, but he had moments when he was good, especially for a rusty 40-year-old. Longtime fans know all about that. July 22, 1957 I realize now I could've had my butt kicked for the stuff I used to do. "Excellent service! Stieb told Butera he was crazy. [11] While this was seen to be generous at the time the contract was signed, by the time the later years of the contract came around this was a bargain, considering that several players were receiving several times the amount per year. "Stieb knocked our eyeballs out," says Mattick. Back in 1998, I covered Dave Stieb's improbable comeback with the Blue Jays, 4 1/2 years after he retired. Dave Stieb's struggle is universal, gut wrenching, and inspiring. Very pleased with all your company. In Vancouver, we do not talk about any of that, nor about his remarkable career: the 175 wins in 15 seasons as a Blue Jay, the 3.24 ERA over his 11-year prime, the year he logged 288 1/3 innings and 19 complete games, his no-hitter and the three that got away with two outs and two strikes in the ninth inning. TMDb Pete and Pat didn't picture Dave as a pitcher. Stieb was nonplussed by this unusual turn of events. He's such an outstanding athlete, we all expect him to be older. Jon Bois humanizes Stieb's experience, showing what a class act he became despite the crushing blows he faced. [6] On August 4, 1989, he had a perfect game broken up with two outs in the ninth. Mastercraft is very professional & considerate through the entire process", "Mastercraft Paintingwhat a professional company! Works (John and Mike) were on time, neat and clean, pleasant to be around and very skilled at their job", "Thanks for seeing the job through to get it right", "Pleased that you were reliable and honest about doing the painting while I was away. So it was exciting again, and it was cool to do that at 40 years old. Definitely will recommend to others", "You have a marvelous and skilled crew. (405) 947-1643. He initially retired after the 1993 season due to back problems but after four years of retirement, Stieb rejoined the Blue Jays in 1998, when he pitched in 19 games (three starts) with an ERA+ of 98. As of 2023, Dave Stieb's net worth is $100,000 - $1M. They were pretty much real good already in the whole '80s, '80 to '89, whereas we didn't really get good until like '84, '85. [18], Stieb currently resides in Reno, Nevada, where he works as a building contractor. Born: Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. [9] But arguably his best pitch was his slider that had a late and very sharp break, especially difficult for right-handed batters to handle. The problem, of course, is that Hall of Fame committees dont generally get too deep into the weeds with sabermetrics. He and his wife, Pattie, have a son, Andrew, who celebrates his first birthday this week. He'd already done and seen so much. 293 Dave Stieb Photos and Premium High Res Pictures - Getty Images All Entertainment News Archival Browse 293 dave stieb stock photos and images available, or start a new search to explore more stock photos and images. To both he responded, "No way." Send. It is three hours before game time at Nat Bailey Stadium in Vancouver. ", "I was concerned having people in my home since I live alone, but your crew made me feel very comfortable", "Service and quality are excellent - My garage floors are bulletproof and the envy of all my friends!! He struck me out in the first inning on a slider that kind of backed up.". Stieb played for the Blue Jays from 1979-92. Wear Tuxedos - would be a nice touch", "We appreciate being listened to as our ideas about what we wanted changed. Rookie season: 18 starts, 8-8, league average ERA+ (the team was 53-109; not quite Carlton going 27-10 but still very impressive) 1980-85 seasonal average: 34 starts, 13 CG, 254 IP, 3.07 ERA, 139 ERA+. I had butted heads with him before about alienating his teammates, so we had a conversation the next morning about it. And I don't think that's enough to make it to the Hall of Fame.". Dave Stieb Position: Pitcher Bats: Right Throws: Right 6-0 , 185lb (183cm, 83kg) Born: July 22, 1957 in Santa Ana, CA us More bio, uniform, draft, salary info 7x All-Star ERA Title 37 10 Become a Stathead & surf this site ad-free. And yet he bounded jubilantly to the mound to face the Yankees in the bottom of the ninth. MLB.TV Buy MLB.TV Buy At Bat MLB . He seems to have it all. Search Details, Dave Stieb's Contact Info, Social Profiles & More Kyle is impressive, Danny is fantastic. Dave Stieb was born on July 22, 1957, in Santa Ana, California. Watch our How-To Videos to Become a Stathead, Subscribe to Stathead and get access to more data than you can imagine. Stieb had the uncharitable habit of responding to errors behind him by planting his hands on his hips and fixing the offender with a baleful glare, a mannerism not likely to win him friends on his own team or, for that matter, to inspire improved play. In mid-June, he got the call every minor leaguer craves. That is just above Don Sutton (50.3) and also above Wynn, Koufax, Ford, Kaat, Lemon, Morris, and Hunter. Thank you", "Good work - Fairly Priced! It defined me then, not now.'". Dave Stieb has not been elected into the Hall of Fame. That showed me something, made me feel even worse, and I already felt pretty bad about the whole thing. Some high school data is courtesy David McWater. On and on the encomiums flow. In 1985, Stieb signed with the Blue Jays what was then one of the most lucrative contracts in baseball. Baseball Primer (later Baseball Think Factory). Always on time, courteous and good work! More at Building under construction. Photo by John Lott. Dave Stieb on Hall of Fame: 'I surely did not deserve to be just wiped off the map', Lou Whitaker on Cooperstown snub: 'I didn't even get daylight', Meet the top seven candidates for the 2018 Hall of Fame class. As we'll demonstrate shortly, by a variety of metrics Dave Stieb was the best pitcher in baseball for at least a four-year period, from 1982-85. . Found you on Angies List, good recommendations", "Jesse and his crew were very professional, courteous, and hard workers. If I keep doing this, it can only get better,'" he says. It sounds stupid, even admitting that.". IMDb Stieb had the highest Wins Above Replacement among pitchers forthe 80s, by a wide margin at 48.6, while Morris ranked 12th at 30.4. Stieb pitched to a 2.78 ERA over 12 games in the minors. Eventual triumph. Always on time and Jays helpfulness selecting the final color", "Always a great job by the crew thats why I always call Mastercraft for my painting needs", "History, professionalism, & quality employees", "Employees do their job well and answer any question you may have. The Hall of Fame is more indicative of somebody having consistency throughout their whole career and dominating numbers throughout their whole career, he said. Around the time of the book Moneyball, WAR (then called WARP) and Win Shares were invented and I fell in with a group of baseball nerds at a site called Baseball Primer (later Baseball Think Factory) who decided to fix the Hall of Fame's many errors by starting over from scratch and electing the people who really deserved to be inducted, starting in 1898. "It was fun to start all over again and make it the same exact way I did 19 years earlier," he said. I felt comfortable having your employees at my home even when I was not there. That gives him a psychological edge." "You can't look for one pitch with him," said Cleveland's Andre Thornton after Stieb beat the Indians 4-1 last month. A dropped fly ball in the second inning had given the Yankees four unearned runs. Stieb appeared in seven All-Star games, also a Blue Jays team record. On the days when his slider was diving and his fastball was crackling, his stuff might have been better than anybody's. Video Film Room Hub Statcast MLB Network MLB Originals Podcasts. He is eager to expound. We provide clients a very diverse portfolio of offerings, enhanced areas of expertise and an expansive geographic footprint. At one point in the Stieb-Blue Jays wars, Trent Frayne of The Toronto Sun wrote, "Stieb often leaves the impression that pitching in Toronto is like playing for the Bangkok Beavers." I'm a real competitor who just doesn't deal too well with failure. They see their boy out there pitching and say, 'Oh boy, isn't that great.' I said a lot of things I shouldn't have. Total Zone Rating and initial framework for Wins above Replacement calculations provided by Sean Smith. We are 100% satisfied with the excellent quality of work. Copyright 2023 PeekYou.com. High School: Oak Grove HS (San Jose, CA), Schools: San Jose City College (San Jose, CA), Southern Illinois University Carbondale (Carbondale, IL), Debut: It is a convivial conversation. "I don't think I even knew how to figure an ERA in those days. I never had a lesson. He ended up winning 158 games in the 1980s, which was. They're used to throwing to targets. won three or even four AL Cy Young Awards while with the Blue Jays. Letterboxd is an independent service created by a small team, and we rely mostly on the support of our members to maintain our site and apps. Dave Stieb wrote an autobiography in his late twenties, which is unheard of, but it's tough to blame him. Stieb and Canzano talked about pitching at a high level in Major League Baseball. Dave Stieb didn't become a pitcher until five years ago, but now he's one of the best, 2023 ABG-SI LLC. Baseball was one part and this is my new part. Dave Stieb's age is 65. However, in his career, he was in the top 10 in WAR by pitchers in the AL in seven seasons, six seasons in the top 10 of ERA, eight seasons among the top 10 lowest in hits allowed per nine innings, six seasons in the top 10 in ERA+, and five seasons among the top 10 in innings pitched, complete games, and strikeouts. "A lot of these parents don't think about that. Stieb's parentsPete, a San Jose general contractor, and Pat, a delivery-woman for the San Jose Mercuryhadn't allowed either Dave or his older brother, Steve, a former minor league catcher, to pitch in youth baseball. Made by fans in Aotearoa New Zealand. But you can't be taking chances with those young arms." We are 100% satisfied with the excellent quality of work. I call it a feel. We decided to draft him. Disclaimer: PeekYou is not a consumer reporting agency per the Fair Credit Reporting Act. Dave Siebels With: Gordon Goodwin's Big Phat Band "All we did," says Mattick, "was try to give him a changeup and work a little on his control. When he took the ball for his first major league start, Stieb had pitched, counting college baseball, a grand total of 216 innings in his lifetime. Thanks for doing a great job. I love how the exterior of the house and cabinets turned out", "We will never call anyone in the future but Mastercraft!" Early in his career, Stieb would also frequently yell at his teammates after errors, for plays that he thought they should have made. Stieb drew just 1.4 percent, or seven votes, of 506 votes cast in 2004 and that was that. Past history made LaMonte urge Stieb to make peace with Toronto. "If he made a bad pitch, he'd slap his glove enough to get you teed off. "I've never had a dj vu experience like that in my lifeso many things that were the same. I would recommend your company to anyone who is looking to have a painting job done and wants to work with reliable, competitively prices professionals", "Thank you so much for a job well done - you are experts in all aspects of painting and decorating, and we look forward to working with you in the future", "Our house looks beautiful - excellent craftsmanship. Addressed my concerns in a prompt manner", "Jesse did a great job! Posters are sourced from TMDb and Posteritati, and appear for you and visitors to your profile and content, depending on settings. Butera said Stieb should tell the Jays he was ready to pitch again. "Dave Stieb," says the Orioles' designated hitter, Ken Singleton, "is no picnic.". Before that, he was one of MLB's best pitchers, and made a triumphant return to the mound in 1998 after a five-year hiatus. But his fierce intensity was also the engine of his success. On June 29 he started for Toronto against the Baltimore Oriolesand lost. If only Stieb gave himself more credit for accomplishing this. "He was angry," Sportsnet's Stephen Brunt wrote last year, recalling his days covering Stieb in the 1980s. Other statistics attest to this as well. SUMMARY Career WAR 56.4 W 176 L 137 ERA 3.44 G 443 GS 412 SV 3 IP 2895.1 SO 1669 WHIP 1.245 Dave Stieb Overview He was asked to be a leader at 21. June 29, 1979 Dave Stieb weighed 185 lbs (83 kg) when playing. All rights reserved. He was a pitcher now, for certain. Stieb is also above recent first-ballot Hall of Famers Glavine and John Smoltz in WAR7 as well as Early Wynn, Lemon, Kaat, Hunter, Ford, Don Sutton, and Morris. The contract, including options exercisable by the team, was for a term of ten years and specified a salary that increased to $1.9 million in 1993, $2 million in 1994, and $2.1 million in 1995. Who he was: Dave Stieb made his only appearance on the writers' ballot for the Baseball Hall of Fame in 2004. Win Expectancy, Run Expectancy, and Leverage Index calculations provided by Tom Tango of InsideTheBook.com, and co-author of The Book: Playing the Percentages in Baseball. Born in Santa Ana, California, Stieb played varsity baseball at Southern Illinois University[1] as an outfielder. They were prepared to write the prospect off whenwhat's going on here?he came in to pitch.
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